PK’ Game with BJP & TDP

[krystax_admin]

9 minutes ago, Sizzler said:

Last 2 days ithe asalu em chestunnado artham kaledhu. BJP CM announce cheyakunda , TDP Idhe range lo back fire avthu seats ivvamante… then what will he do. 

Comedy enti ante anni parties veenni urgent ga CM candidate ga propose cheyyalanta..

at least vediki vedi illiterate fans ki unnanta brain ayina unda..

[DesiPokiri]

2 minutes ago, Sizzler said:

True. Still cannot think of any logic how these alliance talks 2 years before elections are going to help them. Just a gut feeling PK is forcing BJP’s hand to break the alliance here.  

Parties delay announcing the candidates as late as possible to avoid the rebels issue and also prevent at least some of them moving to other party.

I think YSR was the first one to announce all the candidates at once in 2009. 

Whats the logic behind ministers not doing their job and knocking every door doing bus yatra? 
1 plus 1 is not 2 in politics uncle 
 

[Sizzler]

2 minutes ago, DesiPokiri said:

If he didn’t know he screwed up, why door to door mla program before 2 years itself bro? Likewise PK is also doing his thing before 2 years itself. Looks fair to me

Probably based on feedback bro. With Covid done now, Jagan wants them to be in people Emo. I won’t be surprised if many of them don’t get seats. 
 

Not opposing what PK is doing bro.. end of the day they will do what they think it is best for them. Just 1st time chustunna intha early ga alliance discussions…. 

[Sizzler]

2 minutes ago, krystax_admin said:

Comedy enti ante anni parties veenni urgent ga CM candidate ga propose cheyyalanta..

at least vediki vedi illiterate fans ki unnanta brain ayina unda..

At least TDP ni force chesina artham undhi. He will at least get few more seats. BJP ni force chesthe emostundhi. Congress & BJP are pretty much done in AP. 

[anna_gari_maata]

36 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

The most craziest thing is JSP, who could barely win 1 seat after being active for more than a decade…and another national party who did everything but could not win a single seat on its own till date…

ie two parties pothu gurinchi elections Ki two years mundu nunde sketch geesthunayi…

Poi rajakeeyam cheyavayya ante pothu petukunta ano moothulu naakutuntunaru…

BJP started wtih 2 seats 

BJP and JSP have sensed a void here ... if you still don't sense it then probably you are as good as Lagadapati Survey

[Android_Halwa]

3 minutes ago, Sizzler said:

True. Still cannot think of any logic how these alliance talks 2 years before elections are going to help them. Just a gut feeling PK is forcing BJP’s hand to break the alliance here.  

Parties delay announcing the candidates as late as possible to avoid the rebels issue and also prevent at least some of them moving to other party.

I think YSR was the first one to announce all the candidates at once in 2009. 

BJP and PK do have an understanding but such agreements are not required to abide or bond with or without any conditions. They can walk away anytime.

BJP has no community backing neither electoral strength.Just that they are in power at center. If even JSP decides to sever ties with BJP, saffron batch has nothing to loose. 
 

YSR surprised with 290 MLA list in 2009 at a go out of 296. By congress standards, it is a feat.

[DesiPokiri]

5 minutes ago, Sizzler said:

Probably based on feedback bro. With Covid done now, Jagan wants them to be in people Emo. I won’t be surprised if many of them don’t get seats. 
 

Not opposing what PK is doing bro.. end of the day they will do what they think it is best for them. Just 1st time chustunna intha early ga alliance discussions…. 

Jagan cm aina 420 ane antaru bro, pk gadu rendu places lo odipoina vaadini 420 anaru, edho try chestundu honest fellow ane antaru. Sacche mundhu adhi chalu power deniki, 16 months jail lo kurcunnaka life lo? Malli jail nundi thappinchukuntu life mottam bathakadaniki kakapothe

[anna_gari_maata]

51 minutes ago, Sizzler said:

Just curious on what PK is trying to accomplish with his statements or actions  for last few days.

Is he trying to force his way out of BJP alliance by forcing them to announce his name as the CM Candidate knowing they won’t rush to do it? BJP doesn’t have significant presence in AP. Does it really matter them announcing your name as the alliance CM choice? Especially when there are no elections around. Just a head scratcher on what PK’s game with BJP here is. It is a given JS is the senior partner in their alliance and he is the obvious face of their campaign and CM candidate as well.

BJP doesn’t lose anything by announcing his name loud as their CM face. But they are in no rush and probably called PK’s bluff here. Just suspecting if PK has failed to convince BJP to ally with TDP and he wants a way out of the current relation to roll with TDP. 

TDP has responded strongly to his ask for them to sacrifice this time. They are not going to concede sizable seats to JS. CBN is going to send some of his loyalists to contest on JS name and also have lot of TDP candidates in fray even in the seats allocated to JS. 
 

When TDP is in ruling, he wants to contest separately while TDP is in opposition, he doesn’t want to split the anti incumbency vote. Just another head scratcher on why other parties are a priority over his own party. You need to convince people you are an alternative. The best way is to build the cadre and contest every seat irrespective of the results. He had allied with BJP, TDP, CPI, CPM, LS, BSP etc so far. It’s been close to a decade and they still run like the 1st year. 

Only time will tell if PK is acting smart to emerge victorious or making a fool of himself with these alliance games. There are no murders in politics. Just suicides and self goals. 

 

YCP will anyways win ... but who forms the crux of opposition is the point. 

BJP forming alliance with TDP is probably in  dreams

What's gonna happen is ... YCP votes will be split going  forward especially from North and central coastal AP

 

[Swatkat]

47 minutes ago, chandrabhai7 said:

Vadu Em chesina tdp ki daggaravadini chestunnadu

Doubte bro 

[Android_Halwa]

2 minutes ago, anna_gari_maata said:

BJP started wtih 2 seats 

BJP and JSP have sensed a void here ... if you still don't sense it then probably you are as good as Lagadapati Survey

BJP started with 2 but at the same time you should not forget the fact BJP’s predecessor Janata has been in power in many states and was quite a strong political force before BJP became a Janata splinter. 
 

Can you apply the same logic to Janasena or BJP in Andhra ? There may be a void and room to grow…but comparision is bit stale.

[Sizzler]

1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said:

BJP and PK do have an understanding but such agreements are not required to abide or bond with or without any conditions. They can walk away anytime.

BJP has no community backing neither electoral strength.Just that they are in power at center. If even JSP decides to sever ties with BJP, saffron batch has nothing to loose. 
 

YSR surprised with 290 MLA list in 2009 at a go out of 296. By congress standards, it is a feat.

BJP is likely coming back to power again in 2024. PK will probably safe and not use comments (Pachipoyina Laddu etc)  like last time even if he walks out of the alliance.

YSR announced at one go, dealt with rebels and went into campaign early. Maha Kootami was struggling with seat sharing , announcement till last day of the nomination deadline. 

[Starblazer]

I think it's just a statement that he is not desperate to join them. Vaalla ego hurt aithe coalition bongu em undadu. Vaallu kaalla beraniki vasthe CM candidate ga announce cheyyamani chepthadu. Most probably split avutaru, Jagan gelusthadu. PK 2029 lopu inko 5-6 films chesukuntadu. CBN age aipoindi kabatti rest teesukuntadu, Lokesh Babu TDP ni M kudipisthadu. BJP will remain a spectator.

[Sizzler]

7 minutes ago, anna_gari_maata said:

YCP will anyways win ... but who forms the crux of opposition is the point. 

BJP forming alliance with TDP is probably in  dreams

What's gonna happen is ... YCP votes will be split going  forward especially from North and central coastal AP

 

I don’t think BJP will ally with TDP. Most likely it will be TDP + JS + CPI/M going together next elections. 

[Sizzler]

4 minutes ago, Starblazer said:

I think it's just a statement that he is not desperate to join them. Vaalla ego hurt aithe coalition bongu em undadu. Vaallu kaalla beraniki vasthe CM candidate ga announce cheyyamani chepthadu. Most probably split avutaru, Jagan gelusthadu. PK 2029 lopu inko 5-6 films chesukuntadu. CBN age aipoindi kabatti rest teesukuntadu, Lokesh Babu TDP ni M kudipisthadu. BJP will remain a spectator.

BJP ki ikkada vachedhi ledhu…poyedhi ledhu…at least for 2024 elections. They will be more focused on TG.  TDP losing in 2024 will be a huge blow for them and doubt if Lokesh can hold the party together with CBN growing old. 

[anna_gari_maata]

10 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

BJP started with 2 but at the same time you should not forget the fact BJP’s predecessor Janata has been in power in many states and was quite a strong political force before BJP became a Janata splinter. 
 

Can you apply the same logic to Janasena or BJP in Andhra ? There may be a void and room to grow…but comparision is bit stale.

 

JSP has got PRP kind of backing and a direct hand in glove from central govt, even if they get those 14 MLA seats it will still be good impact in morale. The main problem is not JSP history but the players in the game are quickly losing credibility. Also no one is sure about the demographic effect of AP after the state has been split and with the new districts etc. 

In India parties are run with a leader's face especially in states and here you're talking about fights between newly formed parties, with some old heads whose life terms are dying fast. Remember that Karnataka is a BJP bastion and AP can be easily influenced with a good enough wave, don't count out BJP yet.