PK’ Game with BJP & TDP

[Sizzler]

12 minutes ago, DesiPokiri said:

Jagan cm aina 420 ane antaru bro, pk gadu rendu places lo odipoina vaadini 420 anaru, edho try chestundu honest fellow ane antaru. Sacche mundhu adhi chalu power deniki, 16 months jail lo kurcunnaka life lo? Malli jail nundi thappinchukuntu life mottam bathakadaniki kakapothe

Power Vaddu anukunte enduku CM candidate ga announce cheymantadu… end of the day Politicians enni cheppina, Em chesina, their primary goal is power and people are secondary. Let’s wait and see what happens. 

[DesiPokiri]

Just now, Sizzler said:

Power Vaddu anukunte enduku CM candidate ga announce cheymantadu… end of the day Politicians enni cheppina, Em chesina, their primary goal is power and people are secondary. Let’s wait and see what happens. 

I am saying even if he dsnt get power he would lose nothing in life, if jagan stops politics forget leaving country, he can’t even stay outside chanchalguda jail lol

[Android_Halwa]

5 minutes ago, Sizzler said:

BJP is likely coming back to power again in 2024. PK will probably safe and not use comments (Pachipoyina Laddu etc)  like last time even if he walks out of the alliance.

YSR announced at one go, dealt with rebels and went into campaign early. Maha Kootami was struggling with seat sharing , announcement till last day of the nomination deadline. 

We can expect the repeat of 2009 Mahakutami type situation in AP.

All three opposition parties will struggle to forge an alliance and waste crucial time on seat sharing and rebel threats where as YCP will announce candidates and will have a head start. Infighting among coalitions will put up a very bad image of parties just before the polling day.

Looks like YCP will give good number of tickets to BC’s this time. If that happens, caste consolidation becomes even tighter and ST’s votes will become crucial. 

[anna_gari_maata]

10 minutes ago, Sizzler said:

I don’t think BJP will ally with TDP. Most likely it will be TDP + JS + CPI/M going together next elections. 

TDP + JS is death knell to JSP as people will lose trust in PK.. after what happened to PRP they can't take such drastic step.

Also BJP and JS are forging a stronger bond from a population perspective. They both need each other

We shouldn't ignore the fact that Northies are settling in South India and Adani is buying ports in East coast left and right

[Android_Halwa]

5 minutes ago, anna_gari_maata said:

 

JSP has got PRP kind of backing and a direct hand in glove from central govt, even if they get those 14 MLA seats it will still be good impact in morale. The main problem is not JSP history but the players in the game are quickly losing credibility. Also no one is sure about the demographic effect of AP after the state has been split and with the new districts etc. 

In India parties are run with a leader's face especially in states and here you're talking about fights between newly formed parties, with some old heads whose life terms are dying fast. Remember that Karnataka is a BJP bastion and AP can be easily influenced with a good enough wave, don't count out BJP yet.

Agreed with some of your observations. You cannot rule out BJP/JSP right away. If not for 2024, 2029 looks promising if they can neutralize TDP. Also you are right, who becomes main opposition is also very important of these two parties are serious for 2029. 
 

In South especially in states like AP, local factors also ply a major role. Party leadership face is important at the same time local caste consolidations also influence numbers hugely. 

[anna_gari_maata]

4 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Agreed with some of your observations. You cannot rule out BJP/JSP right away. If not for 2024, 2029 looks promising if they can neutralize TDP. Also you are right, who becomes main opposition is also very important of these two parties are serious for 2029. 
 

In South especially in states like AP, local factors also ply a major role. Party leadership face is important at the same time local caste consolidations also influence numbers hugely. 

I think TDP vote bank is up for grabs ... party is now a headless chicken

[sintu]

BJP knows PK is in alliance with them as per CBN plan. BJP don't want TDP to resurge again, so no coalition with TDP. PK will come out of BJP and will ally with TDP. BJP will contest independently. PK & TDP contest together, with CBN as CM candidate. PK will support it for saving state from jagan. sainiks will give elevations and bible quotes. 

[Pavanonline]

7 hours ago, Sizzler said:

Just curious on what PK is trying to accomplish with his statements or actions  for last few days.

Is he trying to force his way out of BJP alliance by forcing them to announce his name as the CM Candidate knowing they won’t rush to do it? BJP doesn’t have significant presence in AP. Does it really matter them announcing your name as the alliance CM choice? Especially when there are no elections around. Just a head scratcher on what PK’s game with BJP here is. It is a given JS is the senior partner in their alliance and he is the obvious face of their campaign and CM candidate as well.

BJP doesn’t lose anything by announcing his name loud as their CM face. But they are in no rush and probably called PK’s bluff here. Just suspecting if PK has failed to convince BJP to ally with TDP and he wants a way out of the current relation to roll with TDP. 

TDP has responded strongly to his ask for them to sacrifice this time. They are not going to concede sizable seats to JS. CBN is going to send some of his loyalists to contest on JS name and also have lot of TDP candidates in fray even in the seats allocated to JS. 
 

When TDP is in ruling, he wants to contest separately while TDP is in opposition, he doesn’t want to split the anti incumbency vote. Just another head scratcher on why other parties are a priority over his own party. You need to convince people you are an alternative. The best way is to build the cadre and contest every seat irrespective of the results. He had allied with BJP, TDP, CPI, CPM, LS, BSP etc so far. It’s been close to a decade and they still run like the 1st year. 

Only time will tell if PK is acting smart to emerge victorious or making a fool of himself with these alliance games. There are no murders in politics. Just suicides and self goals. 

 

you are reading too much into his statements, PK is not that intelligent or strategic. Otherwise he wouldn't be in alliance with BJP. Problem with being star is you are surrounded by bajana batch and hard to introspect. 

Not just him, but CBN too. This is not the time to discuss these things or make statements. They should focus on building ground cadre and with so many head winds for the current govt it shouldn't be hard.  

[Pavanonline]

7 hours ago, Android_Halwa said:

BJP and PK do have an understanding but such agreements are not required to abide or bond with or without any conditions. They can walk away anytime.

BJP has no community backing neither electoral strength.Just that they are in power at center. If even JSP decides to sever ties with BJP, saffron batch has nothing to loose. 
 

YSR surprised with 290 MLA list in 2009 at a go out of 296. By congress standards, it is a feat.

Exactly you can't rely on a party at center because their equations are different than local party. BJP can't go hard at YCP either, they might need YCP MPs. And it's easier to counter JSP for having an alliance with party that's openly said no special status.